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Post by samuraijackk on Oct 27, 2006 18:29:23 GMT -5
Samuraijackk's Resignation Letter WARNING THIS IS LONG. Awhile back my friend in the guild wanted to leave, and I pretty much go everywhere with him and told him to stay. I finally told him I'd implement a 3 strike rule about this guild and then I'd leave with him for greener pastures. Well today this day has come, I have had enough from the people in this guild. Reasons for leaving:Strike one: (this has been awhile ago) I was helping the guild with a test of skulls dragon, we'd be done in like 5 mins max and my hearth was GG. I told taur that we'd be done soon and since people weren't even there I would get there in time. He told me no, leave my group and come now or I'd lose my place. This is me, not even needing to kill this dragon, trying to help the guildies of the guild out. I lose my place for zg, and he tells me to try to start another zg(which of course can't even get off the ground.) After all the bosses that drop shaman gear are down (tiger, panther and hakkar are really shitty for shaman loot)...surprise surprise, all the shamans with him except like most likely Tdrules(because he's awesome and always helps the guild out, except alot of people shit on him) leave the group and taur says I can get in now. This is just after we had a discussion that if you can't stay the whole time and some one else cans they're taking the person who can stay the whole time...and I've only left a raid early once(last monday cause i had to do some homework right fast). So I say to myself on this day, strike one. Strike two: This was on the day of Xternal's Ony Pug. Xternal has an ony pug and invited Odian to the group, Odian doesn't get there in time but still wins the roll for the tier 2 helm. Xternal gets shitted on cause he won a 1h dps axe because no real dps warriors needed it. People from art of war and shit really don't need axes like that because they can run alot higher level stuff than us, but I'm bored of telling Xternal's story, if you want to know that ask Xternal...This Ony pug sparked taur to say that the next tier one gear that Odian can get is defaulted to him (i have no qualms about that). The thing that made me mad is Odian got in our MC run later that night, got to roll on and win the tier one boots(these dropped first), and then he got defaulted tier one leggins right on the next boss kill. This breaks taur's own rule of one tier one piece per run max. He was afk for one or both of those fights, a dps shammy so therefore those tier one would have better helped the resto shammies of the guild, and had just entered our guild not to long ago(meanwhile alot of us had been running mc for quit awhile and haven't even come close to getting a tier one piece). Then Odian leaves right after winning the legs saying he has to go, logs onto his alt (someone told me this fact, but I won't say who(it was a trustworthy source tho)) for the remainder of our MC time, and doesn't show up on Friday even tho we told him he had to (he might have come back on, I was pretty pissed at this time so i'm uncertain on this fact). Taur took no action on this person for what he did, Odian just eventually /gquit our guild presumedly laughing all the way out the door with his shiney new tier ones without putting any work into our guild to get them. However, I am more mad at taur for making this decision and letting him get away with it. Strike three: I get on WoW today(October 27th if you care) and they need the key for UBRS. I go to help this guild run(all guild except one person), we get to where we would normally turn left to kill the beast but about 3 people say they need to go soon so lets skip the beast and kill drak real fast. I protest to the fullest, yet people keep telling me to calm down and we'll come back to kill him. We down drak, and just about everyone leaves the group RIGHT AFTER SAYING they would kill the beast after drak. I basically tell everyone to go to hell and log off of WoW pissed. There were a select few people that stayed, don't really remember who but I thank you for staying. It's just I don't feel I need to be in a guild that asks for help and gets it, yet doesn't return the favor. Strike four: Yeah I said it, strike four. Got a problem with it chump? Well too bad. Anyways, we can't even do raids anymore due to the people in this guild. (Note: I'm working my way back in time here.) Friday people wouldn't even get on for MC so we were forced to do AQ or some retarded shit when everyone knows MC is on wednesday/friday is for MC. We tried zg on thursday night, had to quit on raptor due to no healers in the guild would come when plenty were on(and no I'm not taking it out on people like durahan who wanted to go but were already saved). Wednesday we couldn't do ony because not enough people even got on. Tuesday we tried for AQ, I didn't even wanna go to that suckfest so I don't know how we did. Monday we had to get 2 guilds into our MC just so we could get something done. I think we barely pulled out killing hakkar solo tho before that... Sunday I think we failed horribly at MC. Saturday was just another sucky zg run if I remember correctly. And my memory of what happened isn't that great so I'll stop there. I just know that we haven't had a good guild run to do anything since like either wednesday or before when we managed to get down all of MC besides the two bosses in one night. What happened from that MC run to now? I just don't get how we could do so well, and then just suck it up for the next week plus. This wouldn't even bother me if we had people in there that were trying, but it seems like over half the raid doesn't give a shit anymore. Conclusion:So these are my reasons for leaving, if you feel like I'm just being a baby, retarded, stupid, etc. you may feel that way but I am really tired of the retards this guild has. I appreciate everyone in the guild who wasn't retarded and was my friend. I hope this guild doesn't shit all over you guys as well. If any of my friends wish to add me to their friends list you know where to find me, and I hope I can still keep in contact with you guys because you are what made the guild originally fun(you pretty much know who you are). I'm sorry I have to do this to you guys(esp. Taur) but I just can't take it anymore; however, I hope you guys can forgive me and we can still be friends. If taur will let me I'll still talk to the cool people on vent, but if he wants to bann me from it he can do that as well. P.S. I have made up my mind on this fact and you can not change it. P.P.S. I told you Taur if you don't get rid of people(the retarded ones) then people would help you get rid of people by leaving(the good players). P.P.P.S. there is a certain player in this guild that isn't benefitting the guild at all and makes it look bad. You really really need to get rid of him and I don't understand why you've left him in the guild for so long. He even cussed out a mage because she wasn't fast enough on giving him water. I'll give you 3 guesses as to who this person is, but almost everyone knows who I'm talking about right now and he is dense enough to not know who I'm talking about so I won't hurt this person's feelings because I'm "nice" like that. Well that is all, goodbye my friends and good luck to you in your future endeavors.
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Post by illia aka fearus on Oct 28, 2006 0:15:23 GMT -5
/cry i will miss u
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Post by ewokman on Oct 28, 2006 2:20:41 GMT -5
man thats long.Yeh i had about the same problems as u thought about quiting didnt.I also had the same problem of ZG and helping people out and then cant get into the ZG stuff like that.AND WE HAD HAD A VERY SUKING WEEK!Also what pissed me off today is MC is at 7pm Taur logs at 9pm and wants everyone to drop everything to go to MC when we had though it was canceled.Meanwhile i helped my brother in RFD cuz i had promised him i would run him today.PS i was the one who told u about Odian becuz he logged on his alt and whispered me and that was really dumb of him.ALSO i got my leaf from MC and the elite quest and i asked the guild to help me but hardly no one would help me at all and i begged i only got a few people to help and i got it like for 1day and i had been asking for 3 the people thats helped was (Tharden,byz,snuba,stonefoot,and zorko) Tharden helped me alot and the most and was a good friend others only helped me for a hour that shows how good our guild is at helping guildies
ALSO Xternal is my good friend i have no idea the fuck reason hes not in the guild anymore.He did nothing wrong in Ony and it upset me him leaving and taur acting the way he did.
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Post by slavenvaugh on Oct 28, 2006 3:18:16 GMT -5
With Xternal there is more to the story than what people are getting. His leaving was a building up of several things over time. When I first came into contact with him he seemed alright and he did a decent job. I really tried to help him and tell him what gear he should get if he wanted to tank. What did he do? DE'd his Skull Flame shield and Timeworn mace. Both of which are excellent pre-end game items for tanking. Hell those two items in MC are better than what most of our aspiring tanks have right now for tanking gear... Strike one for X...
Strike two: the more gear that Carl and I got, the more annoying he became. I honestly tried to help him out too. I was always honest with him and told him exactly what he was doing wrong. When I explained to him that his actions and the way he presents himself over vent comes off as greedy, he proceeded to tell me that I was greedy.
He didn't seem to care that I stopped rolling my Druid solely to come on and help my friends with this guild I that never heard of. I was fine with playing my druid but I always help my friends and enjoy doing so when they ask. At that time I had the best gear for the job of off tanking so it only made sense that I off tank... Futhermore, I always play for fun because I enjoy the game My motives for playing do not include getting epic or legendary items. I know that's hard to believe for some people but yes, I have fun even if I'm not playing end game shit.
Strike three, four, five and possibly more: Everything Xternal did was a direct attempt to get himself loot. He was speced DPS. Well he saw that MT and OT were getting priority on loot. What did he do? Specs protection and then asks if he can get priority on loot. Not only does he just ask but he pesters the shit out of me and Taurinus about getting priority on loot and pretty much demands that he get it.
Over the course of a few other days, he wants to be able to roll on The 2 handed sword from hakkar and throws a fit that he wasn't able to because he is Prot spec now. Then the final straw that broke the camel's back was he rolled on that Onyxia Axe that another guildie wanted for DPS. That same run he also blocked out a guildie from coming when it was HIS raid that he put together. Even though that guild member turned out to be a lootwhore as well, it's still not right to start the raid and fill his spot when the dude could see the onyxia gates. Meanwhile he was still constantly msging me and taur to get priority on Might gear... After he has that axe, he also tells me that he was thinking he would go DPS spec. Sounds like he wants to be whatever spec is right for the time of the loot distribution to me... If that isn't being purple hungry I don't really know what is...
Aside from Xternal,
Seriously guys, if you aren't having fun then you should do something to remedy the situation and your feelings. i.e. find a new guild, quit playing for a bit, or I dunno do something else but whatever you do stop bitching. There's no reason for people to be unhappy playing a game that is meant to pass time in an enjoyable manner.
I respect SamuraiJack for his explaination and civil way of leaving. It shows his maturity and that he can deal with change in a positive manner.
In closing, I'm sorry if I have offended anyone with anything I have said about thier friend but everything I have said is the honest truth.
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Post by illia aka fearus on Oct 31, 2006 1:57:36 GMT -5
ok im sorry to say this but im leaving the guild and heres y /first of all im sick of everyone being rude to one another and no one helping ne one out except for a few ppl who are truely dedicated to the guild deathkeeper, slav, ata, sam, chikin, byz, larek, jeremy, vousduex, taur, ewok, darkstar, hordonski(well he wont see this cause hes probably afk) there are more i imagine but those i saw are for guild not themselves /2nd im tired of the officers taking a blind eye to all the ppl that need to go and not doing ne thing about it 3rd for awhile the raids were good but then it came down to just 2-3 hours of yelling and fighting every one blaming every one else /4th after i got hacked and stayed in the guild as fearus no one would listen to me saying i was a stupid lowbie and to basicly stfu i saw ppl that were kicked for good reason come back when they shouldnt have been let back /5th the xternal incident ok a few of the higher end guild ppl just wouldnt see the truth they just used it as an excuse to get rid of him /fact 1 X was greedy i admit but he was still about the only one willing to help out with ne thing /fact 2 the ony thing wasnt his fault he did nothing wrong /fact 3 YES u guys did give him the impression he would be 3rd tank by defaulting him some items and the was u talked then when ppl complained u turned it around on him and made him the scapegoat /4th reason my 2 best freinds in the guild left cause of stupid stuff (chikin and sam) none of u would listen it was always were right ur wrong theres nothing u can do about it so im leaving to play on another server in GLBT(GLBT means gay lesbian BI transgender) friendly guild where there is no bias and name calling ill still get on this toon some times to check in and hop on vent to chat /5th im sick of every thing being "gay" or your a "fag' cause that really offends me cause im Bi-sexual ok enough ranting I bid u all a fond farewell and i hope the guild works out ^^ p.s. dont try to convince to come back cause im not coming back p.p.s. if u want to talk to me my new char is on the alliance on the shadowmoon server in the guild "oz" my name is "Playful"
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Post by ewokman on Oct 31, 2006 10:36:33 GMT -5
yeh thanks for posting the stuff bout xternal thats exactly right.And i am sorry that u left too and that suks.But this guild has many problems right now its dieing and we have to save it and we can its just a few GOOD people are leaving becuz of things that should of been done A LONG TIME AGO!
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Post by xternal on Oct 31, 2006 22:59:39 GMT -5
lol at slaven, nice try but its totaly wrong...some is right.....first off i was protection for months and i rolled on the zinrok cuz ewok was on his druid and we didnt wanna see the new warrior who just joined get it.... secondly... i said after i got the onehanded AXE FROM ONYXIA ... I can use it "LATER ON" IF I EVER GO FURY not GONNA GO FURY....nice job tryin to turn that one around greedy boy.... k thats all i had to say....peace Atacarl and Slaven #1 for tha greedyness grats on ur thunderfury bindings...shoulda went to atacarl since hes better geared but neway greedy man..gratz.... peace gluck with Malevolence...even tho yall gonna be leaving 1 by 1 and i found a better guild im happy i left....we clear all instances including BWL and starting AQ40 this week or so...so ya... umm have fun in ZG/MC peace /wave taurinus lol!
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Post by adn on Nov 1, 2006 14:46:06 GMT -5
So you'd rather have a prot warrior who won't use Zin'rohk get it instead of an arms warrior who can us it just because he's new? Great philosophy.
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Post by ewokman on Nov 28, 2006 8:21:21 GMT -5
lol in all defense the guy who won it quiznos after that never came to another raid then quit the guild 2weeks later so..........
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